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Bruce Merrill’s entire polling is from cloud nine.

Yet that is why they threw us out of state government, local government and federal government?

I am sorry Greg, but I don't think our soul searching is over with yet. I go to such places and the overwhelming response is yes property taxes are too high but they are not blaming Democrats for it. The blame a Republican government. That is the one part you forgot in this. WE see that Gov. Napolitano is blocking all inklings of reforms, THEY see a do nothing Republican government using a Democrat Governor as an excuse not to do their job. The people can be merciless ...

"The Governor blames the Republicans, while the Republicans blame the Governor.

"And the natives are getting restless.

"[The Repubic regrets any offense which the use of the term 'native' may have caused the indigenous population. The writer of this story sought to convey the idea that the average Arizona voter is growing restless at the stalemate which currently exists at the Capitol. The Repubic has added new instructions to its manual to avoid using the term 'native' in any sense which may imply irrational violent tendencies among the local populace.--The Editor]

"And the ultra-conservatives are getting restless.

"Respected ASU pollster Juice Peril's latest polling has proven that the average voter does not actually know what is best for himself. 'The cognitive sense that the average voter possesses which gives him a psychological feeling of confidence in his own powers of self-determination have been shown merely to be an artificial construct resulting from inauthentic environmental conditioning,' Peril stated. 'The fault usually lies with the parents.'

"Yet the voters, some of whom own guns, are continuing to make demands of their elected representatives.

"And the storm clouds continue to accumulate over the Capitol.

"Some legislators are feeling increasingly alarmed at the large quantity of mail which continues to arrive at their Capitol offices on a daily basis. 'It is a concern to me,' stated one Democratic legislator who asked to remain anonymous. 'We don't usually get this much mail. I'm even getting mail from places like East Mesa, even though it's not in my district. It's really getting scary.'

"No one is quite sure what the solution to this ominous problem may be.

"But stamps are still on sale."

I am not looking forward to a lot of "citizen legislation". Such legislation can be driven by money from an entity that may not have even the supporters' best interest in mind. There are a lot of initiatives that sound great, but have not been well thought out. Conservatives walk in dangerous territory when they become as reactionary as Dems. Furthermore, this type of legislation is difficult to change should it have unintended consequences.

What we really need is qualified, reasonable citizen LEGISLATORS. The legislative process, if worked on by honest, intelligent persons is the best way to make laws and fix problems. We have too many stupid people in the legislature who swept in because of lies and unreasonable anger ginned up by the opposition.

Wake up Republicans: Find, support and work for these intelligent, qualified candidates, or the mess we have now will look like a piece of cake.

"What we really need is qualified, reasonable citizen LEGISLATORS. The legislative process, if worked on by honest, intelligent persons is the best way to make laws and fix problems."

I think an interesting question is how much of this initiative legislation would have been avoided if the Governor had negotiated with the Republican legislature rather than just vetoing their bills. There is a path around the veto, and it's been used extensively the last few years.

The gun rights stuff is unsurprising as it is in accordance with Arizona' libertarian roots.

And I do believe in the public's desire to clamp down on illegals. But I think the public wants it done in a more humane way than some in the legislature APPEAR to.

However, this is a state that has had more openly gay elected officials of both parties than almost any other state. It also rejected the ban on gay marriage that was almost word-for-word the exact same language that passed in Wisconsin overwhelmingly.

Oh, and remember that abortion initiative from twenty years ago? (when I was only eight years old) IIRC, that proposal died with only about 33% support.

The reality is that Arizona is very conservative on some issues and very liberal on others. IMO, it's more liberal overall than conservative. However, because of gerrymandering, the legislature does not reflect this.

"Drastic property tax cuts could never make it through the legislature, but they may be approved at the ballot this fall."

People just need to take a long look at Mesa to see how a low (or non-existent) property tax works. Mesa's a fiasco. Everyone's for low taxes until the streets are covered in garbage and it takes a year to change a streetlight.

And Klute: When the weeds overrun the city of Phoenix city landscaping as they are already doing - and there is no one at the city to go and cut the weeds - watch the screaming begin - and when the potholes at 24th St and Camelback don't get fixed (almost got caught in one this morning) - then listen to the R's eating lunch at Houston's complain about those deep cuts in the city budget.

Lots of people want a free lunch - we need to learn -

TINSTAAFL

ron

Janet has a veto pen.

My vote pen works well.
Four ballot measures passed with large percentages.
I will vote for more ballot measures even
if they are a bad method of legislation.

If the AZ Republic were a conservative-libertarian paper more in line with the values of its readers - or former readers - its circulation would probably be growing.

Speaking of cuts in the city of Phoenix budget, does anyone know what the total amount of sales taxes we gave away the last number of years to 'attract' business? I am sure that if we had not given away the store, we wouldn't be facing these draconian cuts in service - we may have some cuts, but not in the measure we are seeing them.

This is so fair and balanced, it makes Fox news look downright fair and balanced. All we have to do is ignore all the examples of voters in Arizona supporting moderate or even liberal candidates or measures. Just talk about, say, four or five anti-immigrant measures that passed and you've proven that Arizona voters are true dyed in the wool conservatives. The pollsters and that dreaded evil force called "the intelligentsia" are hopelessly out of touch with reality.
How could the amendment to ban gay marriage have failed in Arizona? I don't know anyone who voted against it. How could JD Hayworth have lost? He literally wrote the book on immigrant hatred. Don Goldwater, a gun carrying, oops, card carrying member of the Minutemen, couldn't possibly have lost the Republican primary. Len Munsil, with every credential in the world as a strong social conservative, couldn't possibly have lost every single county in the state of Arizona. Matt Salmon, tax cuts to fix our budget crisis? How could Janet get elected governor? Nobody I know voted for her.
Someone's out of touch here, all right. It ain't the pollsters or the intelligentsia, though.


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