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Greg, living in Surprise, I have to disagree with you here. The issue was that policy decisions were being settled out of sight of the public, and consequently without our input.

'Shuttle diplomacy' is one thing - this did not qualify. Rather, this was a case of two or three members colluding to determine their position on an issue before it was brought up before the public.

I'm very much in favor of open-meeting laws, and believe they bring a degree of transparency that had been lacking in Surprise's city council.

I'm not a fan of the state AG, but I think in this case - especially given the nature of and personalities on the Surprise city council - he made the absolutely correct call.

During Janet's years as AG, she was aggressive in her rulings on the OML. The AG ruling is seen as the current interpretation and under Goddard it hasn’t changed.

It is a violation if a series of individual conversations, with a common member in all, takes place involving a number of members that equal a quorum if the subject is the same. Polling the members, attempts to influence the members, or just circumventing public discussion of sensitive topics by having individual conversations with less than a quorum present, if the sum total of members in all conversations equals a quorum, is a big no-no. If it did not equal a quorum, no problem.

Members A and B of a 7 member council speak openly about an issue to each other. Member C and D speak about the same issue; 4 members but no commonality, no OML violation. Member A speaks to B and C. No violation. Member A then speaks to Member D and E, same subject. BINGO! Five members have held conversation, basically in counterpart, on the same topic. A decision may have been made by a public body without the benefit of the public.


The ACC ruling was not to encourage private conversation or shuttle diplomacy but to prevent all conversation outside the purview of the public meeting being a violation. A 3-member board is almost a violation in the making, walking to the parking lot together could present a perception of guilt. Two members agreeing, or disagreeing, in private to reach an end that will be presented in the public meeting is almost impossible to avoid if you are an active and contributing member.

They were "chastised"? Is that what passes as law enforcement in Arizona?

Imagine if they had really done something wrong. Goddard might have been forced to make the entire City Council sit on their naughty stools for a 10-minute time out!

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