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Daniel Gonzalez was caught lying on this blog in February and hasn't manned up on his absurd claims from then:


Well, GP, as usual Gov. Brewer's statement is wrong because the Republic says so. That's the standard; whether you're an intern, a Cronkite reporter, or a senior reporter for the AZ Republic--the standard is the same.

I was able to get an exclusive, back-room look at how the Republic handles the Fact Checks.

EXAMPLE: Politician says 2 + 2 = 4

1. Interns fetch soy latte and pastries. (Interns pay for this on mommy and daddy's credit card, sort of like tuition, room and board, and living expenses until the intern is 37.)
2. "Team" ascertains whether this statement was made by a conservative or liberal.
3. If statement was made by a liberal, give it four stars, have intern write some piece about how the liberal is fighting for the common man, speaks truth to power, and knock off early for the day.
4. If statement was made by a conservative, give it zero stars. It's never been proven by peer-reviewed research by Ivy League professors that 2 + 2 = 4, in fact if everybody believes it, does it really make it true? Suppose 2 + 2 = 5, and that greedy, heartless conservative is just skimming that one off the top because that's how conservatives roll, just screwing over the general public to enrich himself (or herself, if she's a gender traitor). Furthermore, since John Galt said "the noblest act you have ever performed is the act of your mind in the process of grasping that two and two make four," we know that Ayn Rand hated poor people and government so this automatically makes it false. Again, give the conservative zero stars, and call for all copies of Atlas Shrugged to be burn...er...taken off the shelves as potential hate speech. Cite a bunch of links to discredit the conservative, including his fourth grade picture where his hair was messed up because of his winter hat, and then call it a day. Make the smarter of the four interns write the hit piece, but give the senior reporter the byline. After all, it's always Pulitzer season.

Fact-checking can be tough, and those ARE good reporters. But, I agree with you on this one - they should re-evaluate, and/or more clearly explain the standard of evidence used.

I've occasionally been criticized for my Fact Checks, and I've occasionally criticized the Republic for theirs(e.g. this immigration-related one in 2010: http://arizonaspolitics.blogspot.com/2010/09/fact-checking-fact-checks-pearce.html). But,this one is a real head-scratcher.

By the way, I was also searching yesterday for the original Border Patrol "Intelligence Report" that concluded that most or all of the detainees interviewed came because of their incorrect beliefs about DACA. Not only did the Governor use it in responding to the Republic, but Sen. Flake used it (with "95%" as the percentage) yesterday on Fox News. The closest that the Republic Three and I could get is GOP Rep. Goodlatte's characterization of the report. (I have calls out, but refrained from fact-checking the Flake statement in the interim.)

But, in addition to that (shaky) support, the Governor also had her personal interviews with kids. That all may not be the "hard evidence" the Republic was looking for, but it means that her statement was not "unsupported". And, Brewer's use of the word "directly" does not mean that she was claiming that it is the ONLY factor.

Mitch: You make too much sense to be a "fact checker." You're scaring me.

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